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Boiler Losing Pressure With No Visible Leak

If the gauge falls and every radiator, valve and joint you can see is dry, the water is going to one of three places: into a floor or wall where you cannot see it, out of the relief valve pipe outside, or nowhere at all because the expansion vessel has failed and the pressure is only appearing to drop.

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Flooring and plaster being made good after a leak repair

Nothing visible does not mean nothing is leaking

The visible part of a heating system is a small fraction of it. Radiators, valves and the boiler case are what you can inspect in ten minutes. The pipework connecting them runs under floorboards, through joist notches, in wall chases and, in most London flats built or refurbished in the last twenty years, buried in screed. A pinhole in a 15mm copper run under screed will drop a gauge weekly and show nothing at all above the floor, because screed holds water and a warm floor evaporates it as fast as it arrives.

So the first correction: dry surfaces rule out about a fifth of the possible leak sites, not the leak.

The three destinations, and how to check each

1. Into the building fabric

Under a floor, behind a wall, or into a void. The tell is not water, it is temperature and time. A warm patch on a floor with the heating off, a board that has cupped, a skirting that has darkened at its base, a cold room that never quite gets to temperature because a buried flow pipe is losing heat into wet screed. Ceilings below bathrooms and kitchens tell you late, after months.

2. Out of the relief valve discharge pipe

Almost nobody looks at this, which is why it is worth checking first. Vaillant describe the pressure relief valve as a safety device that lets pressurised water out through a pipe running from the boiler to the outside wall, or down towards the ground. Ideal say that outlet pipe should normally be dry. Go outside after the heating has run, find the small copper or plastic stub near the boiler's flue, and feel underneath it. Wet, or a pale limescale trail down the brickwork, means water has been leaving the system there.

3. Nowhere, because the vessel has gone

The case people miss entirely. Vaillant describe the expansion vessel as the chamber that absorbs the pressure rise when the boiler heats the system water, using a rubber diaphragm with gas on one side. Ideal put it bluntly: if the rubber bursts or tears, water fills the air gap and the pressure in the system drops. In the early stage of that failure nothing leaves the system at all. The gauge simply swings, high when hot, low when cold, and each time it reads low you top it up, which makes the next hot peak worse.

The half-hour that narrows it to one

  1. Cold reading, heating off overnight. Ideal put the correct cold figure between 1 and 1.5 bar.
  2. Hot reading, after an hour with all radiators open. Ideal describe a normal rise to around 2 bar. A jump towards the top of the dial is the vessel.
  3. Outside pipe, immediately after. Dry rules the relief valve out for this cycle.
  4. Cold reading again next morning. Lower than yesterday's cold reading means water has genuinely gone.
  5. Isolate what you can. If your system has isolation valves on separate circuits, closing one overnight and watching the gauge is the cheapest way to halve the search area.

Record the four numbers. Any engineer who turns up to a set of readings starts an hour ahead of one who has to generate them.

What makes a hidden heating leak different from a plumbing leak

Three things, and they all help you.

The water is hot, which makes thermal imaging genuinely useful rather than marginal. A wet patch of screed above a leaking flow pipe reads differently from dry screed around it, and the pipe run itself shows as a warm line that goes wrong at the failure point.

The system is sealed and can be isolated and pressurised to a known figure, so a pressure test does not just say whether there is a loss, it says how big. A circuit that holds for an hour is not the one you are looking for.

And the circuit can be drained, which is the condition tracer gas needs. A hydrogen and nitrogen mix pushed into an empty pipe escapes at the failure point and rises through screed, tile and floorboard to be picked up at the surface. That is how a leak under a poured floor gets located without the floor coming up first.

When the answer is not detection

  • The outside pipe is wet. You need a Gas Safe heating engineer to establish whether the relief valve is passing or the vessel is over-pressurising it. Baxi name debris in the valve as one cause and say the fix is to clean or replace it.
  • The cold-to-hot swing is wide. Same answer. Vessel recharge or replacement, and both Baxi and Ideal are clear it is a registered engineer's job.
  • It dropped once and then held. You bled a radiator, or somebody did. Top up and stop watching the gauge.
  • It will not hold at all, minutes after filling. That is a substantial open leak. Isolate the system and treat it as an emergency, not a diagnostic exercise.

Sending a detection engineer to a vessel fault wastes your money and our morning. We would rather tell you that on the phone.

What we do when it is ours

Isolate and pressure-test to confirm and size the loss, thermal-image the runs to narrow it to a zone, then tracer gas on the drained circuit to put a cross on the spot. The floor or wall is opened at that point, the pipe is repaired or re-run in copper, and the screed, board, tile or plaster goes back. That last part is the difference between us and a detection-only firm, and it is why the boiler and heating leak repair page reads the way it does.

If your pattern is a steady drop rather than a hidden one, start at boiler pressure keeps dropping with no visible leak or the wider boiler pressure hub. Rates are on the pricing page: £150 per hour, fixed before we attend, and no find, no fee.

Frequently asked

My boiler loses pressure but there is no sign of water anywhere. Where is it going?
Three places. Into a floor, wall or void where screed and warm pipework hide it; out of the pressure relief discharge pipe outside, which most people never check; or nowhere, because a failed expansion vessel makes the gauge fall without any water leaving the system.
How long can a hidden heating leak run before it shows?
Months, under a screed floor. Screed absorbs the water and a warm floor dries it, so the first outward sign is usually a warm patch, a cupped board or a stain on the ceiling below rather than standing water.
Should I keep topping the boiler up while I work out what is wrong?
Top up enough to keep the heating running in cold weather, but treat it as temporary. Ideal Heating point out that repeated topping up dilutes the corrosion inhibitor, and the fresh oxygenated water accelerates the corrosion that causes pinholes in the first place.
Will a leak sealant additive fix it?
Sometimes, on a weeping joint, and never on anything structural. It also coats the inside of the system and can complicate a later repair. If the loss is large enough to need weekly topping up, find it rather than dose it.
Do you need to drain the system to use tracer gas?
Yes. Tracer gas works on an empty pipe, which is why it is done after pressure testing and thermal imaging rather than instead of them. Draining and refilling is part of the visit.

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No find, no fee · £150 per hour. The rate is fixed before we attend and does not rise for a difficult property, an awkward access or an evening visit. The total depends on how long the job takes; the rate cannot change.